kikinickmc asked: Also, I thought that Rowan and Fitz went for the jugular and hurt each other in regards to Olivia. This was done when Fitz told Rowan he just enjoy having sex with his daughter and then Rowan telling him he would never be a good suitor for his Livvie. This had to hurt and stir up anger in both of them. Rowan fears of Liv being reduced to nothing but a F buddy and Fitz fear of never being good enough or ever having her. Those two were playing hardball! Loved it!
They were definitely playing hardball. It will be interesting to see these two interact in the future.
kikinickmc asked: Humor me. When Fitz told Liv's dad that he was screwing her yada yada to get a reaction out of him. IMO that was Fitz going for the jugular and you can see in this scene that both men talked but they were a lot of silence, meaning that they think before speaking. It wasn't until Fitz was over him that he actually calmly tell him about Olivia since he obviously know that Rowan's knows about it. I thought those scenes were brilliant by both men going at each other where it hurts the most.
Yes, Fitz very deliberately chose his words to get to Rowan. It’s interesting to read people’s reactions to this scene. I see a lot of people say that he failed because Rowan read Fitz and called him a spoiled boy for trying to use his words to get Rowan to break. I think that Fitz did it to get Rowan rattled and in my eyes he succeeded. It might have felt good for Rowan to get all that shit off his chest, and I see a lot of people fist pumping his speech, but Rowan’s words ultimately did not reach Fitz. While Rowan was ranting, Fitz was quietly dismantling Rowan’s empire.
It was a great scene, although I have major issues with once again Olivia’s sexuality used as a weapon against others. I think that this is just one example in a long string of instances where this has happened. I think that this is a problem, and as other people have pointed out, the writers may want to pretend that there are “no lessons learned” on Scandal, but when the media starts calling your lead a “man-eater” I think the message that Olivia’s sexuality is a tool is being heard quite clearly by the audience.
Why does the one black guy in power and prestige have to be dethroned of power by a white man. I don’t want to make this a race thing but damnnnnn Shonda. The black men on this show, sans Harrison are straight loosing.
definitely how i interpreted it, too.
fitz objectified the fuck out of the “love of his life” and then, when her father called him out on his white privilege, took him off his throne.
rowan comin back tho. put it on bey’s album, rowan is comin back
Liv gave her permission for Fitz to take her father down right after Vermont is for Lovers. Did any of you all forget that scene? He did what he promised her, period. This has nothing to do with race in this scenario. Now as for as Harrison’s scenes being cut to prop up others, well that is a different story and I can’t see any reason for that at all. I completely did not like Harrison being reduced to a few lines. He is the ride or die gladiator and should be rewarded with great scenes.
Look, I didn’t like what Fitz said to Rowan, but the first person to objectify his daughter was Rowan himself. He sleazily had one of his lackeys sleep with her and make a sex tape so he could get to Fitz. He’s the one that started the mind games of using his daughter.
But fuck, I’m sick of anyone using the sexuality of Olivia Pope as a weapon. Ugh.
- so Olivia and Joke’s relationship could be dangerous and forbidden so it makes people even more interested in Ojoke (but that won’t happen and we know it lol)
I’m going with what milton has been saying for weeks - Shonda wants to make Joke the head of B613 to put him on more of a level playing field with Fitz. To make him powerful enough that he could possibly compete with Fitz.
Mr. Control-Alt-Print guy, the head of B613. lol
And while Fitz gave Jake his power, I have a feeling that Jake is going to start falling into the old B613 habit of not being accountable to any branch of government.